Group+8C

Friday, 12.6 Report
 * We discussed the slogans war is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength and how they related to the world motto from B rave New World.
 * We discussed the idea of the tele screens and how that related to the NSA debate topic
 * We also discussed the scene in which Winston began writing and how the telling of the film made us feel
 * We discussed all the characters that were brought up in the section we read
 * We discussed dystopian societies

Wed, 12.11 Report Add On
 * We discussed a few passages from each person. One such was "my kid made sure he was an enemy agent... Pretty smart for a nipper of seven, eh?" pg 57. We talked about how when we were seven we would do nothing even remotely close to this.
 * We also discussed the ides of how the proles were needed for rebellion. We connected this to the hunger games and how the districts all rise up and rebel.
 * This book is the opposite of //Brave New World// in the way that sex is the main theme of //Brave New World// and in //1984// sex is forbidden. It's interesting to see how different the rules are of the society. Oceania is so strict where //Brave New World//'s society is so relaxed.

Tues, 12.17

What role does technology play in this book? In what ways does the Party employ technology? In what ways does technology make the overall themes of this book possible?

Technology plays a big role in this book. the telescreens a large example of their effect. With their dual ability to blast Party propaganda and to view and hear exactly what's going on in a room, these telescreens are a visible symbol a symbol of the Party’s constant monitoring of its subjects. They also symbolize the tendency of the governments to abuse technology to further their own ends instead of to improve living standards.

And the telescreens create a presence of fear, especially in Winston. He is paranoid that the government is always watching him. And that they will find out his thoughts.

Also splitting the book into three parts allows for different things to be going on at similar times and helps to organize events chronologically.

Splitting up the book into parts provides more organization and makes it easier for the reader to keep track of the plot, characters, and important events.

’’As winston stood up O’Brein held out a hand. His powerful grip crushed the bones of winstons palm. At the door winston looked back, but O’Brien seemed already to be in process of putting him out of mind… Within thirty seconds, it occurred to him, O’Brein would be back at his interrupted and important work on behalf of the party.” pg 179.

It seems as though the conversation with O’Brien and winston did not do anything to O’Brein. It was as if the conversation meant nothing to him even though the topic was intense.

Maybe O’Brein wasn’t affected by the conversation even though it was intense because it was about about a topic that he could get in trouble with the thought police for.

But he is against the thought police and working to abolish them anyway. So he shouldn't care if they find out anyway.

But he could still be afraid that the thought police could stop him before he could do anything ton act against them.

Yeah, just like in Brave New World how Bernard was originally against society and when he had a chance to see what the outside world is like he was afraid. That’s kind of how Winston feels because as much he wants to escape the outside world is a scary place if you don’t know anything different from what you’re used to.

“His whole mind and body seemed to be afflicted with an unbearable sensitivity, a sort of transparency, which made every movement, every sound, every contact, every word that he had to speak or listen to, an agony” (111).

i was wondering why Winston felt this way in this scene?

He was feeling this way because Julia was avoiding him, or at least she wasn’t present in his life at the time (for three days). When Winston didn’t see her he felt this way.

He was so in love with her that when he didn’t see her he was heartbroken in a way.

Also Winston feels extremely paranoid at this point and not seeing Julia doesn’t help with this. He also was in need of some victory gin or victory cigarettes. This is kind of like in brave new world when Bernard starts feeling that John isn't helping him and begins taking all the soma.

Thurs, 12.19  